Oooh…ten gorgeous, smart and talented, aristocratic, Lords, leaping and running…brings to mind the Irish Riverdance group! Or the Bolshoi ballet, or my grandson–so proud of his running and leaping ability! “Did you see me GiGi…did you see how far I can leap!” as he sails over another mud puddle! His folks would be so proud! LOL All these thoughts run through my mind as I prepare to continue my Christmas posts inspired by The Twelve Days of Christmas. But, of course, genealogy is always at the top of my mind these days…and Lords, Lairds…I know we have more than ten in our family tree—and I’d like to share some of their stories with you! I must tell you however, that regardless of the song, Lord is not really an official title of the English peerage! This statement from Wikipedia helps explain: “Lord is used as a generic term to denote members of the peerage. Five ranks of peer exist in the United Kingdom, in descending order these are duke, marquess, earl, viscount, and baron (Wikipedia, “Lord”).” I do not care, I am so happy to present some of the Lords in my family tree to whose stories I am doing the leaping!
Joy of joy, this past year I met a real live “Lord” or “Laird” with the genuine title! He is Laird Douglas Moncrieff of Glencoe! More importantly, he is one of the nicest, smartest, most talented genealogists I know! Talk about serendipity, or fate, and the life affirming pleasure of doing this genealogical research—he is not a new cousin, but he has become a friend, and a person who has volunteered his expertise to help a group of our family try to trace our Hogue family back through its origins in Scotland! We have a mystery in that line, and it will certainly take great effort it appears, to find the true line, but if anyone can help us find it, Laird of Glencoe, Douglas Moncrieff is our man! There is so much I am learning from Laird Moncrieff, who goes by Douglas by the way, and I am so impressed by him, that I want to tell you more about him in an in-depth post, unless he forbids it after this! LOL Douglas lives in Scotland, is married with two sons and two grandchildren. This first Laird that I have leaped back to is a very special man, so honored to know you Douglas, to call you friend, and I thank you every day for your help!
In chronological order, not the same family line from our family tree:
Sir Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland was born circa 1364 at Raby Castle, Durham, County Durham, England. He was the son of Sir John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville and Maud de Percy. He married by contract, firstly, Lady Margaretde Stafford, daughter of Hugh de Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford and PhilippaBeauchamp, before 1370.2 He married Lady Margaret de Stafford, daughter of Hugh de Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford and Philippa Beauchamp, circa 1382 in a Stafford, Staffordshire, England marriage.4 He married, secondly, Lady Joan deBeaufort, daughter of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Katherine Roët, before 29 November 1396 at Château de Beaufort, Meuse-et-Loire, Anjou, France. He died on 21 October 1425 at Raby Castle, Durham, County Durham, England. He was buried at Staindrop, County Durham, England. He was buried in October 1425 at Staindrop, County Durham, England. His will (dated 18 October 1424) was probated. In 1380 he took part in the Earl of Buckingham’s expedition to Brittany. He was invested as a Knight in July 1380. He held the office of Joint Keeper of the castle and city of Carlisle on 26 October 1385. He held the office of Joint Warden of the West Marches towards Scotland on 27 March 1386. He succeeded to the title of4th Lord Neville, of Raby [E., 1295] on 17 October 1388. He held the office of Joint Surveyor of the Fortifications in the Marches on 25 October 1388. He held the office of Joint Warden of the West Marches towards Scotland in 1389. He held the office of Keeper of the Forests beyond the Trent between 1389 and 1425. He was Chief Commissioner to perform the duties of the Constable of England in 1391. He held the office of Keeper of Wark Castle between February 1396/97 and September 1398.8 He held the office of Constable of the Tower of London between 21 September 1397 and 30 October 1397. He gained the title of 1st Earl of Westmorland [England] on 29 September 1397, for loyalty to King Richard II when the later struck back at the Lords Appellant who in 1387 had engineered convictions for treason against King Richard’s friends. He held the office of Guardian of the truce in the East March on 28 November 1398. He held the office of Marshal of England between 1399 and 1413. In July 1399 when he sided with his brother-in-law, the banished Duke of Hereford, against King Richard II, after the Duke (later King Henry IV) returned to England. He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.) before 4 December 1399. He was Commissioner to treat with the Romans for the marriage of Princess Blanche on 13 February 1400/1. He held the office of Keeper of Roxburghe Castle between March 1401/2 and 1408. He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter (K.G.) circa 1403.2 He held the office of Warden of Berwick and the Eastern March in 1403. He held the office of Warden of Carlisle and the Western March between 1403 and 1414. On 29 May 1405 at Shipton Moor, Yorkshire, England, he intercepted the rebellious Archbishop Scrope and the young Lord Mowbray, where, after a friendly conference, he arrested them in an unscrupulous manner. He was a member of the Council of Regency in 1415, during King Henry V’s absence abroad. He was a member of the Council of Regency in 1422, during the minority of King Henry VI. He was survived by most of his 23 children! He was a great church builder, ‘curious flat headed windows being peculiar to the churches on the Nevill manors’. When he died, he left money to complete the College of Staindrop which he founded near Raby, and was buried at Staindrop, where his alabaster effigy in armour between his two wives ‘remains the finest sepulchral monument in the north of England.
Children of Sir Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland and Lady Margaret deStafford
Lady Maud Neville d. Oct 143810
Lady Philippe Neville+ d. bt 8 Jul 1453 – 5 Jan 145810
Lady Elizabeth Neville 10
Lady Margaret Neville+ d. bt 4 Mar 1464 – 3 Mar 146510
Lady Anastasia Neville 10
Lady Anne de Neville 11
Lady Alice Neville+ b. c 138410
John de Neville, Lord Neville+ b. b 1387, d. b 20 May 142012
Sir Ralph de Neville, 2nd Earl of Westmoreland+ b. c 1392, d. 25 Feb 145810
Children of Sir Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland and Lady Joan deBeaufort
John Neville 13
Sir Edward Neville, 1st Lord Abergavenny+ d. 18 Oct 14765
Sir William de Neville, 1st and last Earl of Kent+ d. 9 Jan 1462/635
George Neville, 1st Lord Latimer+ d. 30 Dec 14695
Cuthbert de Neville 5
Thomas de Neville 5
Henry de Neville 5
Joan Neville 5
Lady Anne Neville+ d. 20 Sep 148014
Lady Katherine Neville+ b. c 1397, d. a 14835
Lady Eleanor de Neville+ b. c 1397, d. 147214
Sir Richard de Neville, 5th Earl of Salisbury+ b. 1400, d. 31 Dec 146010
Robert de Neville b. c 1404, d. 8 Jul 1457 or 9 Jul 14575
Lady Cecily Neville+ b. 3 May 1415, d. 31 May 149513
Citations
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume XII/2, page 908. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
[S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 14. Hereinafter cited as Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 544.
[S125] Richard Glanville-Brown, online , Richard Glanville-Brown (RR 2, Milton, Ontario, Canada), downloaded 17 August 2005.
[S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 108. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Family.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 547.
[S8] Charles Mosley, Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, volume 1, page 14, says 1384.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 545.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 546.
[S8] Charles Mosley, Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, volume 1, page 15.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 152.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume IX, page 504.
[S8] Charles Mosley, Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, volume 1, page 17.
[S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Family, page 109.”
3. Lord Thomas Montagu, Knight, and 4th Earl of Salisbury
“Sir Thomas Montacute and his wife Eleanor Holland (Wrythe Garter Book) Thomas Montacute, 4th Earl of Salisbury, 6th and 3rd Baron Montacute, 5th Baron Monthermer, and Count of Perche, KG (13 June 1388 – 3 November 1428) was an English nobleman. He was one of the most important English commanders during the Hundred Years’ War. He was the eldest son of John Montacute, 3rd Earl of Salisbury and Maud Francis, who was killed while plotting against the King in 1400, and his lands forfeited. Thomas did get back some of his father’s lost lands, and helped his financial position further by marrying Eleanor Holland, a sister and eventual co-heiress of Edmund Holland, 4th Earl of Kent, and daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent. Thomas was summoned to Parliament as Earl of Salisbury in 1409, although he was not formally invested as earl until 1421. In 1414, he was made a Knight of the Garter. In July 1415, he was one of the seven peers who tried Richard, Earl of Cambridge on charges of conspiring against the King. Montacute then joined Henry V in France, where he fought at the Siege of Harfleur and at the Battle of Agincourt. Montacute fought in various other campaigns in France in the following years. In 1419, he was appointed lieutenant-general of Normandy, and then created Count of Perche, part of Henry V’s policy of creating Norman titles for his noblemen. He spent most of the rest of his life as a soldier in France, leading troops in the various skirmishes and sieges that were central to that part of the Hundred Years’ War. In 1425, he took over the city of Le Mans. On 27 October 1428 he was wounded during the Siege of Orléans, when a cannonball broke a window near to where he stood, and he died a few days later. He married twice, first (as mentioned above) to Eleanor Holland, and second to Alice Chaucer, daughter of Thomas Chaucer and granddaughter of Geoffrey Chaucer. They lived at Bisham Manor in Berkshire. His only legitimate child was a daughter from the first marriage, Alice, who married Richard Neville. Neville succeeded his father-in-law jure uxoris by his wife Alice.”
References
Hunt, William (1894). “Thomas de Montacute or Montagu, fourth Earl of Salisbury”. Dictionary of National Biography38: 208–211.
the Peerage.com on Thomas Montagu, 4th Earl of Salisbury
On 8 May 1405, Peter married Margaret de Baux (a descendant of the Baron of Lisarea Gilbert d’Escors[2][3][4]), daughter of Francesco del Balzo’s third wife Sueva Orsini, a relation of Clarice Orsini (wife of Lorenzo de’ Medici). Peter and Margaret had nine children:[5]
Thibaud of Luxembourg, Seigneur de Fiennes, Count of Brienne, Bishop of Le Mans, (died 1 September 1477), married Philippa de Melun, by whom he had issue.
Jacques of Luxembourg, Seigneur de Richebourg (died 1487), married Isabelle de Roubaix, by whom he had issue.
Isabelle of Luxembourg, Countess of Guise (died 1472), married in 1443, Charles, Count of Maine (1414–1472), by whom she had a daughter, Louise (1445–1477), who in her own turn married Jacques d’Armagnac, Duke of Nemours, by whom she had six children.
Death:
The 14th and 15th centuries were well known for the Black Death, a deadly form of bubonic plague that eventually spread across the known world. Europe was badly hit by the pestilence, as a result of trading with countries with the plague; it soon grew to epidemic proportions, and would kill swiftly, and without discrimination as to gender, age or class. The plague had hit Luxembourg, France, England and Spain in the 1340s when it caused the deaths of millions of people; and it continued to re-appear at intervals over the succeeding centuries. Peter was among its victims. He died at Rambures on 31 August 1433, aged 43 years, and was buried in the abbey at Cercamp, near Frévent.[6] His wife died 36 years later.
L’Achaïe féodale: étude sur le moyen âge en Grèce (1205-1456). Diane de Guldencrone , Diane Gabrielle Victoire Marie Clémence Gobineau Guldencrone. Published in 1886 by E. Leroux. Book Collection from the University of Michigan. Free download: http://archive.org/details/lachaefodaletud00guldgoog/
Libro de los fechos et conquistas del principado de la Morea. 1885. Juan Fernández de Heredia, Alfred Morel -Fatio. Imprimerie Jules -Guillaume Fick.
The Chronicle of Morea. A History in political verse, relating the establishment of feudalism in Greece by the Franks in the thirteenth century. 1904. John Schmitt, PhD. Methuen & CO. 36 Essex Street, W.C. London.
Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands, Champagne Nobility, Seigneurs de Ligny, de Roussy, et de La Roche, Comtes de Ligny
“Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby, KG (1435 – July 29, 1504), was King of the Isle of Man and an English nobleman and stepfather to King Henry VII of England.He was the son of Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley and Joan Goushill, daughter of Sir Robert Goushill and Elizabeth FitzAlan, daughter of Richard Fitzalan, 11th Earl of Arundel. After the death of his father in 1459 Stanley inherited his titles, including that of King of the Isle of Man and Baron Stanley. Stanley owned what is now Tatton Park in Cheshire. Stanley remained in favour with successive kings throughout the Wars of the Roses until his death in 1504. His marriage to Eleanor, sister of Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick, did him no harm, even after Warwick was toppled from power, and he took his second wife Margaret Beaufort, whose son, Henry Tudor, was the leading Lancastrian claimant to the throne.Thomas Stanley is also suspected for the death of the Princes in the Tower but this is unproven. [citation needed]King Richard III of England unwisely continued to trust Thomas Stanley and his brother, William, even after he had briefly imprisoned Thomas in 1483 on suspicion of conspiracy. At the Battle of Bosworth Field, the Stanleys betrayed him, coming in on the side of the Lancastrians at a crucial moment. Thomas is alleged to have retrieved Richard’s lost crown from the battlefield and placed it on the head of his own stepson. In recognition, Henry created him Earl of Derby on October 27, 1485, and his fortunes continued to flourish. His brother, William, made the mistake of supporting the pretender Perkin Warbeck, and was executed for treason in 1495.Descendants of Thomas Stanley and Eleanor (or Alainor) Neville included George Stanley, Edward Stanley, and James Stanley, all of whom were also descended from the same Beauforts and John of Gaunt as the step-son who became King Henry.”–unknown source
A romantic story… “William Fairfax, Sir, d. 31 Oct 1558, Steeton, England, m. 1518, Isabel Thwaits, b. 1497, England, (daughter of John Thomas and Emota (Middleton) Thwaits, Esq.). William was High Sheriff of the County of Yorkshire 1535 & 1540. He joined the Pilgrimage of Grace, 1536, but appears to have been pardoned for his share in that outbreak. He acquired the Manors of Bolton Percy and Nun Appleton in 1542 and Bilbrough in 1546. He was buried at Bolton Percy Church. Isabel was of Denton, Askwith, and Bishop Hill and Davy Hill, York. She was made an heiress by her brother, John Thwaits. Her mother was daughter and heir of Nicholas Middleton. Isabel was the ward of the abbess of Nun Appleton.
The story of the romance of Sir William and Isabel Thwaits was printed in the Baltimore Sun on 15 Jan 1903 and reads as follows:
A romance equal to the Scottish ballad of Young Lochinvar twines about his marriage. The young Sir William Fairfax loved and was loved in return by Isabel Thwaits, a beautiful Yorkshire heiress, who was guarded like a rare flower within the walls of a Cisterclan nunnery, on the River Wharge. She was under the care of the Abbess, Anna Langton. The abbess was not slow to perceive the blossoming of love’s springtime between her ward and the gallant young knight. Hence she prohibited all meetings between the pair, and the young suitor, finding supplication, diplomacy and even commands from those in high authority unavailing, stormed the nunnery in warlike fashion, captured the willing lady of his heart, carried her off in triumph to Bolton Percy Church, and without loss of time or speech with her abbess guardian made her his wife. Since all the world loves a lover the Ainsty region rang with rejoicings over the match, and Isabel Fairfax and her gallant knight lived happily ever after. Through his wife, William acquired Denton Castle and through her descendants the nunnery where she was confined was wrestled from the abbess, and Nun-Appleton, built upon its sight was afterward the home of Thomas Fairfax, 3rd baron, whose daughter’s wooing was less tempestuous, but whose married life as Duchess of Buckingham was full of sorrow. The hot head himself, Sir William Fairfax was less patient with others of a like nature. Upon his death, he was succeeded by his second son, the eldest having died. Sir Thomas Fairfax of Denton who received that estate from his mother, but who lost Steeton Castle to his youngest son, Gabriel. The unruly son Thomas had offended his father by aiding the Duke of Bourbon at the sacking of Rome, hence his name is not even mentioned in the will. This will, copies of which still exist, is a curious document, in which the son fallen under the father’s displeasure is never mentioned. “
“Edmund Sheffield, 1st Baron Sheffield (22 November 1521 – 19 July 1549) was an English nobleman, the son of Sir Robert Sheffield and his second wife Jane Stanley. Through his mother, he was a second cousin of the reigning English monarch, King Henry VIII. Following his father’s death in 1531, his wardship was granted to George Boleyn, Viscount Rochford, the brother of Henry VIII’s second wife Anne Boleyn. However, both Rochford and Boleyn were executed in 1536, and his wardship was transferred to John de Vere, the fifteenth Earl of Oxford. Edmund married Anne de Vere, Oxford’s daughter, before 31 January 1538, and had five children. In 1547 he was raised to the Peerage of England as Baron Sheffield of Butterwick. Two years later, during Kett’s Rebellion in Norwich, Lord Sheffield was murdered in a street near the Cathedral Close. Children
Eleanor Sheffield (born about 1537) married Denzel Holles
John Sheffield, 2nd Baron Sheffield (c. 1538 – 10 December 1568) married Douglas Howard
Robert Sheffield (born about 1540
Frances Sheffield (born 1542) married Thomas Metham
“John Holles, 1st Earl of Clare (May 1564 – 4 October 1637) was an English nobleman. He was the son of Denzel Holles of Irby upon Humber and Eleanor Sheffield (daughter of Edmund Sheffield, 1st Baron Sheffield of Butterwick). His great-great-grandfather was William Hollyes, Lord Mayor of London. Holles married Anne Stanhope (daughter of Sir Thomas Stanhope) on 23 May 1591 in Shelford, Nottinghamshire. Through his marriage to Anne, he inherited Thurland Hall in Nottingham which was also known as Clare Place. The family seat was at Haughton Hall in the parish of Bothamsall. Haughton Hall was demolished in the late eighteenth century. He was comptroller of the household of Prince Henry until the prince’s death on 6 November 1612. He was created 1st Baron Haughton on 9 July 1616 and 1st Earl of Clare on 2 November 1624. He was Member of Parliament for Nottinghamshire from 1604 to 1611 and 1614 to 1616. He is buried in St. Mary’s Church, Nottingham. Children
John Holles, 2nd Earl of Clare (1595–1666)
Robert Holles (b. 1597), married Ursula Cooper
Denzil Holles, 1st Baron Holles (1599–1680)
Francis o.s.p. (died without offspring)
William o.s.p. (died without offspring)
Eleanore Holles, married Oliver Fitzwilliam, 1st Earl of Tyrconnel, became Countess of Tyrconnel, buried in St. Mary’s Church, Nottingham 11 April 1681
Arabella Holles (died October 1631), married Thomas Wentworth, 1st Earl of Strafford”
“He was a member of the British House of Commons and the House of Lords, replacing his father, William Astor.Waldorf Astor, 2nd Viscount Astor (19 May 1879–30 September 1952) was a businessman and politician and a member of the prominent Astor family.Born in New York City in the United States, he was the son of the extremely wealthy William Waldorf Astor (1848-1919) (later 1st Viscount Astor), and Mary Dahlgren Paul (1858-1894). He grew up in New York City but when he was 12 the family moved to England where he received an education at Eton College and at New College, Oxford. The family’s wealth allowed Waldorf Astor many choices but his interest in politics would dominate his life. In 1906, he married the American divorcée Nancy Witcher Langhorne who was born on exactly the same day as he was. A few years later he entered politics, in 1910 being elected Conservative Member of Parliament for Plymouth and then in 1918 Plymouth Sutton. As a wedding gift, Astor’s father had given him and his bride the family estate at Cliveden. There, Nancy Astor undertook a redecoration of the house, installing electricity for the first time. The young couple’s lavish entertaining at the estate is often referred to as the ‘golden period’ at Cliveden when guests such as Winston Churchill, Arthur Balfour, Rudyard Kipling, Lord Curzon of Kedleston, and others of the British elite gathered for parties, fox-hunting, and other pastimes of the wealthy. This prominent circle became known as the “Cliveden Set” and were very influential over the affairs of state. Waldorf Astor was a friend and supporter of David Lloyd George and during the First World War he served as the Prime Minister’s Parliamentary Secretary. From 1919 until 1921 he served in government as Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Health. On the death of his father, Waldorf Astor inherited a fortune that included the influential newspaper The Observer. In addition, he succeeded as 2nd Viscount Astor and automatically became a member of the House of Lords, and his seat in the House of Commons was forfeited. His wife Nancy then became the party’s candidate in the subsequent by-election. On 28 November 1919, she became the second woman elected to the House of Commons, after Constance Markievicz). On 1 December, she became the first woman member to take her seat in the House (Markievicz had declined to do so in accordance with her party’s policy). She was to be re-elected many times, serving until 1945. Lord Astor was active in charitable causes and served as a governor of the Peabody Trust and Guy’s Hospital. Still involved in political matters, he was Chairman of the Royal Institute of International Affairs from 1935 to 1949 and also served as Lord Mayor of Plymouth from 1939 to 1944. He took over a successful thoroughbred racing stable from his father and expanded it further, winning many important races throughout Britain including the prestigious St. Leger Stakes in 1927. Although the Astor family donated the Cliveden Estate in Buckinghamshire to the National Trust, Lord Astor lived there until his death in 1952 and his wife remained until her death in 1964.”–ancestry.comNancy was my second cousin and our most famous relative alive in my lifetime. My mother referred to Nancy’s father as “Cousin Chilly”. She helped my mother’s family directly when their mother, her first cousin died and they were all still children in need of direction and support. This is the relationship chart:Nancy Witcher “Lady Astor” Langhorne (1879 – 1964)
Today is the 10th day of Christmas my friends and family, enjoy it, revel in it, we only celebrate such special days once a year! Wishing ou always and only the BEST!
Old enough to enjoy life, I am a Red Hatter, grandmother, gardener, and amateur genealogist. I am a retired clinical psychologist, master's level, who is disabled with heart disease, but having fun with family and friends. Married over 40 years, I have two grown daughters and three grandchildren. I have learned that grandchildren provide a joy one never knew existed---writing feeds my soul, gardening is therapy, and genealogy research makes me feel like a detective!
4 thoughts on ““On the Tenth Day of Christmas, My True Love Gave to Me…Ten Lords a Leaping…””
LOL, oh yes! lOL Of course my tree is full of vey rebellious people like Quakers and Huguenots, more than likely that is where I would have been, not with the Royals. Thank you so much for coming by and commenting Sam, it measns a lot! Helen
This was a bit longer than I wanted for my Christmas series, but reminds me of your, and my love of genealogy and ancestors! So great to meet a kindred spirit! Love you, Helen
January 5, 2014 at 9:11 am
We don’t have to start calling you m’ lady or Lady Holshouser do we?
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January 5, 2014 at 12:07 pm
LOL, oh yes! lOL Of course my tree is full of vey rebellious people like Quakers and Huguenots, more than likely that is where I would have been, not with the Royals. Thank you so much for coming by and commenting Sam, it measns a lot! Helen
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January 5, 2014 at 4:00 pm
People that say history is boring should read your blog! Great job!
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January 5, 2014 at 5:26 pm
This was a bit longer than I wanted for my Christmas series, but reminds me of your, and my love of genealogy and ancestors! So great to meet a kindred spirit! Love you, Helen
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